On this episode of the podcast Kaz and Matt discuss getting through the trials of what life looks like when trying to make a baby isn't as successful or easy as it is for the average person.

Even with all the science behind getting pregnant, sometimes no matter how much you want it or how hard you are working towards it the goal still evades many couples.

Kaz and Matt were no different, and here is how they got though.

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