In this episode, Ruth talks to textile artist and researcher, Lucie Bea Dutton. For the last few years, Lucie has been exploring Hilary Mantel's Cromwell Trilogy though a large-scale sewing project inspired by Mantel's work. Lucie trained as a historian and she works extensively with archival materials. In this episode, Ruth talks to Lucie about this project, as well as finding your place as an artist when it isn't your first career, the importance of a studio, how shifts in life influence how you want to work, creative process and how you don't need to be economically productive to be an artist. Find out more and see images of Lucie's work: https://ruthsinger.com/podcast/ Also find details of Ruth's podcast fundraiser here: https://ruthsinger.com/podcastfundraiser/