Joel Meyerowitz returns to talk about the new '22 edition of his 1991 book Redheads and Kieran Dodds introduces his book Gingers, celebrating the flow of DNA across cultures; the rare and beautiful. Two different works, two distinctive voices. Also, we talk projects, making photography a daily habit, punk rock, pictorial 'everdayness', your castaway photobook and Stopping Tanks with Books. Supported by MPB and our patrons. See the SHOW NOTES.