Two Shrinks on the Farm

2SOTF Ep 10: Two Shrinks and a Gynecologist Walk Into Menopause


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Hosts: Dr. Robyn McKay & Dr. Barbara Kerr

Guest: Kimberlee McKay, MD (OBGYN, Maternal-Fetal Medicine Specialist)


Menopause isn’t the end—it’s just another beginning (with some hot flashes, hormone fluctuations, and a whole lot of societal myths to unravel). In this episode, Barb and Robyn welcome a very special guest—Dr. Robyn’s younger sister, Dr. Kimberlee McKay, an OB-GYN and maternal-fetal medicine expert, who brings her signature blend of medical wisdom and sharp humor to the conversation.


From the reality of perimenopause to the myths of menopause and the cultural phenomenon of female invisibility after 50, this episode covers it all. Kimmy shares her clinical insights on why menopause is different for every woman, what’s actually effective for managing symptoms, and why your give-a-shit gene might just turn off completely (and that’s a good thing).


Topics Covered:

✔️ The truth about perimenopause (and why it can last up to a decade)

✔️ Menopause vs. stress: how modern life speeds up hormonal shifts

✔️ Barb pokes holes in the grandmother theory

✔️ Weight gain, night sweats, brain fog—what’s real, what’s nonsense

✔️ How menopause symptoms mimic anxiety & depression (and why many women are misdiagnosed)

✔️ The invisibility effect after 50—and why some women refuse to disappear

✔️ HRT, bioidenticals, and why estrogen got such a bad rap

✔️ The NEO Personality Inventory, emotional regulation, and how menopause changes who you are

✔️ Why menopause might just be the ultimate glow-up


Barb also shares a legendary cowgirl story about wrinkles, Kimmie drops some OB-GYN wisdom on birth control after 40, and Robyn reflects on how menopause shifts your life purpose, self-acceptance, and confidence.


Connect & Resources:

🌿 Want Barb and Robyn to analyze your personality with the NEO Personality Inventory? Reach out at [email protected]

🐴 Follow Dr. Kimberlee McKay on X (formerly Twitter) @OBGYNKenobi

📖 More about Dr. Robyn McKay’s work: @robynmckayphd on Instagram

📍 Follow us on Instagram: @twoshrinksonthefarm


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