Two Shrinks on the Farm

2SOTF Ep 8: Busting Creativity Myths: Everyday Creativity and Freedom in Community


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Episode Summary:

In this episode of Two Shrinks on the Farm, Dr. Robyn McKay and Dr. Barbara Kerr tackle common myths about creativity, diving into what it really means to live a creative life. They explore creativity as a personality trait, a process, and a product while debunking myths like “everyone can be highly creative” and “you’re too old to be creative.”

Drawing from decades of research, the duo discuss the role of openness to experience in creativity, the tension between solitude and community, and how systemic barriers around gender and privilege have shaped creative recognition. Along the way, they share stories of extraordinary creators and the everyday acts of creativity that bring purpose and joy to life.

The conversation closes with reflections on the importance of finding creative communities, embracing freedom within structure, and living boldly as a creative person, regardless of where you are on your journey.

Topics Covered:

  • What defines creativity: Person, process, and product
  • The link between openness to experience and creative potential
  • Everyday vs. eminent creativity: Why both matter
  • How privilege and systemic biases shape creative recognition
  • The interplay of solitude and community in creative lives
  • Creative communities and the freedom to thrive
  • Rethinking age and creativity: It’s never too late
  • Why parenting creative kids is different (and how to support them)

Listener Takeaways:

  1. Everyday creativity is accessible to everyone, from designing a new recipe to reorganizing your space.
  2. Creative potential isn’t limited by age—some of the best creative work happens later in life.
  3. Creativity thrives in supportive communities that balance freedom with structure.
  4. Systemic barriers shouldn’t diminish your creative aspirations—breaking those boundaries is part of the journey.

Quote of the Episode:

“Creativity isn’t just about creating art or music—it’s the way we problem-solve, connect with others, and make life meaningful.” – Dr. Robyn McKay

Resources & Mentions:

  • Csikszentmihalyi’s work on creativity and flow
  • Torrance Tests of Creative Thinking
  • Research on the role of openness to experience
  • Lawrence Creates Makerspace

if you're interested in having your personality tested and interpreted by the two of us, or you're ready to bring us in to work with your teams, Get started by sending an email to [email protected] and we'll help you start the process.


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