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3-9 Enemies of Zen


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Zen is not tolerant and peaceful. There are a number of enemies that Zen Masters are eager to challenge:

  1. Fakers who aren't enlightened but want people to think they are

    • Dongshan questions the head monk to death

2.People who practice a religion of ideas instead of personal experience

      • Elder Ting on the Bridge.

3. People who believe in an doctrine of Truth aka Revelation (Buddhists, Dogenists, new agers)

    • Huangbo: Because in truth there is no unalterable Dharma which the Tathagata could have preached. People of our sect would never argue that there could be such a thing.

4. Psychological, Philosophical, Metaphysical servitude, subservience.

    • Foyan: I will not allow people to oppress the free.

5. Pillars and Monks (just because Yunmen)

When Master Yunmen saw a monk come to visit him, he struck a blow on a pillar and said, "You came in here to deceive me!" On behalf of the monk he answered, " [Lucky me] he only hit the pillar." Master Yunmen whacked the monk and said, "Letting off steam for other people's benefit."

Zen Teaching: Record of Tung-shan, Instant Zen, Zen and Zen Classics, Master Yunmen: From the Record of.

Post Cast Overview: Enemies… Frenemies… Wumen… xx

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