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The Illusory Man by Zhonfeng Mingben

12. Enter The Gate Abruptly

Understand that the Great Illusory Dharma Gate is right at the soles of your feet and has never moved a single hair. You just need for your delusions to be snuffed out, for your point of view to end. When you take a false step and trample on your attachments, then you'll know that Taiyuan heard a gong at the same moment Dongshan crossed the river, and there will be no separation between us.

When you get here to the place where the Great Illusory Dharma Gate is entered, kick it over with a single kick. Don't preserve your footprints: only then can you be ten feet tall. An emancipated person must be able to enter the gate abruptly. If you drift through live (sp, life?) frivolously, your mind always in a single revery of delight, then obviously you're still taking part in yesterday's bewilderments.

This matter is not explained thoroughly, and then you rest easy. Nor is it something you finish seeing, and then you can take a break. It is done incessantly and without deviation, from beginning to end.

When you're ten feet tall, you don't cling to a single truth like it's a fish basket. Being adequate only to the burden of the Buddha's teachings is just sowing weeds. Even at this very moment the truth of the Way is not an antique; people's minds are just lazy and idle. They may behave like teachers and behave like disciples but really, they just seek to balance one another's accounts. Day and night they entice each other with appearances when they ought to be building a single belly for Zen, the Way, the Buddhadharma. There, life and death are the family treasure. It hasn't ever yielded its dwelling high up on the cliff, and if it's cut off behind, it just comes around again rejuvenated.

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danger and seriousness

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Xuefeng said to his group,

(One blind man leading a crowd of the blind. It's not beyond him.)

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"Pick up the whole world, and it;s as big as a grain of rice."

(What technique is this> I myself have never sported devil eyes.)

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 Reading this case from two viewpoints: original audience and modern audience.  Two entirely different contexts with different challenges.

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Despite connection problems and mic quality, an interesting conversation with someone who knocked on some doors and has thoughts about that.

I didn't edit the longest part because of integrity!  No?  It's because low production value is our brand!  Not really?  Okay, then... because it takes too long and I'm busy?

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Post: Cause Effect and Community

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 1. cause & effect  2. "chilling effect" - people being discouraged from participation  3. Hermits v.s. socialites (retreating from public v.s. being beholden to public)  4. Being dangerous  5. Seeing with the same eyes as all the buddhas

The hermit delusion loop vs community conformity loop

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'Muslin Robe' Zhao one night pointed to the half moon and asked elder Pu, "Where has the other part gone?" Pu said, "Don't     misconceive." Zhao said, "You've lost a piece."  Dahui said, "He gets up by himself and falls down by himself."

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When is it not a metaphor?

When you can't see the moon?

Is what you can't see still there?

Two halves to the moon, the "two" of knowing and not knowing".

Cases mentioned:

1. Guichen asked, “Where are you going?”  Fayan replied, “On an ongoing pilgrimage.”  Guichen said, “Why do you go on a pilgrimage?”   Fayan replied, “I don’t know.”  Guichen said, “Not knowing is most intimate.”  At these words Fayan instantly experienced enlightenment.

2. One day Master Yunmen brought up this story about one of his teachers: “A monk once asked Master Yuezhou Qianfeng, 'The honored ones of the ten directions all had a single gateway to ultimate liberation. Where is this gateway?' Then Master Yuezhou drew a line in the ground with his staff and said, 'Here.'” Master Yunmen then held up his fan and offered this comment: “This fan jumps to the uppermost heaven and hits the god Indra; when it strikes the carp of the Eastern Sea, the rain pours down in torrents. Do you understand?”

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Zen Masters tell people that enlightenment is not based on cause and effect, and that enlightened people are not subject to karma.  This was heresy as far as 8fp Buddhists were concerned.

Cause and effect mattered to Buddhists back in the day... what is the modern version that matters to people now?

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Who are the Patriarchs?  Previous translation errors.  

How to make sense from one sentence to the next in Zen formal poetic instruction.

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Translating the first Case of the book of instruciton by a female Zen Master.

Discussion of translation, history, Zen vs Buddhism. Propaganda, 1900's vs Chinese history, etc.

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How do we know what "donkey" means in China, on a Zen commune, 1500 years ago?

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Why have koans lasted so long and continued to be more relevant to daily life than meditation?

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# What did we talk about?

alternate translations mind body problems what you already have is it magic eye pictures, factory error trust in awareness touching awareness you can't see it, you can't not see it

substitution game:

Ordinary Mind not difficult for those who have no preferences. When love and hate are both absent everything becomes clear and undisguised.

Ordinary mind is perfect like vast space where nothing is lacking and nothing is in excess. Indeed, it is due to our choosing to accept or reject that we do not see the true nature of things.

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