Read the History, Talk the History, 2/17
Episode #301
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# Third thouhts
I don't remember what we talked about, but Good Zen Manners has been an upsetting topic here for more than a decade. If somebody wants to be Goth or Straight Edge or a Hipster, we all agree that (a) that will entail specific subculture norms and (b) you get to.
But good Zen manners, as dictated by 1,000 years of indigenous Zen historical records (called koans) and a dozen plus Zen books of instruction written by Zen Masters are **so at odds with Christian Humanism, Shinto-Buddhist Zazen and Hakuinism, and Protestant culture**, that 99% of the time the discussion is **HOW DARE U BE DIFFERENT IN A WAY I DON'T LIKE, EVEN IN UR OWN FORUM**. So it's a hard topic to discuss...