#Post(s) in Question

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#What did we end up talking about?

• Wumen's "facts"
• philosophy is like art history in it's shrouded mystery to the public
• Science is a branch of philosophy, but philophy is taught as religion
• Is Science subjective?
• Wumen's checkpoint is the metal detector in the lobby of the building
• Juzhi and the password
• translation questions
• Zen isn't getting what you want, Zen isn't the solution to what you don't like.

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#Post(s) in Question

Post: Xutang's Empty Hall 34, no post!  Heresy! 

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#What did we end up talking about?

舉。葉縣省和尚問僧。日暮投林。朝離何處。云。某甲不曾參禪。縣云。爾生身入地獄。 僧無語。 代云。誰不承恩。

Yexian Sheng, the Chan master, asked a monk, 'In the evening you enter the forest. In the morning, where do you leave from?' The monk replied, 'I have not yet engaged in Zen inquiry [參禪 (cān chán)].' Yexian said, 'You are alive and yet you enter hell.' The monk was speechless. Someone else said on his behalf, 'Who does not receive grace?'"

Triple entendres of leaving home, Dongshan's "no entrance" Symbolism of forrest, at night. Taking refuge Three bodies of Buddha    

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#Post(s) in Question

Post:  Link to episode:  https://old.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1g59izn/three_barriers/

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#What did we end up talking about?

This is going over the same ground, but in a different way, compared to the previous episode.

Lots more arguments about The Fish.

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#Post(s) in Question

Post:  https://old.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1g59izn/three_barriers/

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#What did we end up talking about?

Here's a translation, you can see where it's going:

Qianfeng, the monk, was asked by a monk: "The Bhagavān (Buddhas) of the ten directions1, all lead to the same Nirvana Gate. Where is the starting point of this path?"  Qianfeng lifted his staff, drew a line, and said: "It’s here."

Later, a monk sought advice from Yunmen about this. Yunmen lifted his fan and said: "The fan leaps up to the Thirty-Three Heavens, strikes [the Hindu’s] Indra2 on the nose, and [Ao Guang] the Chinese Serpent-Carp King3 of  the Eastern Sea] gets hit with a stick—rain pours down like a waterfall."

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#Post(s) in Question

Post: https://old.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1g59izn/three_barriers/

Wonderwheel: http://home.pon.net/wildrose/gateless-47.htm

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#What did we end up talking about?

why does wumen say "answer correctly"?  what does "correctly" mean in various contexts? religion: answer key.  new age: no grades.  Zen: no answer key, but heavily graded why do masters set up barriers? what is the verse about?  do numbers make any sense? how different languages build in different assumptions that you only see from another language getting bored with questions getting old

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Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1fz22ci/i_made_a_video_of_how_i_translate_mingbens/

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#What did we end up talking about?

Do people even know what they are talking about?

Translation of Mingben's opening gambit - what makes Zen itself?

What makes swans white and trees straight?

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#Post(s) in Question

Post: https://old.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1g1ytgq/the_impossible_checklist/

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#What did we end up talking about?

Do people even know what they are talking about?

Non-vegitarian Zen Masters (maybe two?) dumpster diving... and we're off.

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#Post(s) in Question

Post:  https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/1fxlg3a/enlightenment_doesnt_make_you_better_at_seeing/

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#What did we end up talking about?

How to translate the Case, and how the Case, Lecture, and Instructional Verse combine into a coherent teaching.

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#Post(s) in Question

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#What did we end up talking about?

Cults... doctors... religion... Zen.

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#Post(s) in Question

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#What did we end up talking about?

Translation, of course, and other stuff that I can't remember about the Past and Future Buddhas.

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