After the horrific attacks on Muslims in Christchurch, New Zealand, an image of a Christian in England standing guard outside his local mosque went viral. Andrew Graystone was the good witness. Speaking in a press tent at Greenbelt festival, he talks to Beer Christianity about power and whether the Church needs it.

Also on the podcast, in the pub: a man called Drabs and a woman called Laura talk about losing our confidence in evangelism, how beer once funded the Baptist Missionary Society (but sadly doesn't anymore), power and light stuff like universalism.

Beer flows. Jukeboxes get loud. Truth is mumbled to power.

Thanks to Greenbelt for organising the interview. You guys are lovely.