Mike Stevenson: “A child will say, "I want a city that is designed for all of us". And in response, an adult will say, "Where is the budget coming from? Can we do it? There's too much opposition.” They will take a position that's going to be immediately adversarial. 

Changemakers in the world draw people in because they don't complicate things with policies and facts. They just say, "We want a city designed for people and all those plants and creatures that inhabit the world". 

I do believe in young people and I'm at the age where so many of my contemporaries are dissing them and referring to them as snowflakes. 

This is a political weapon to attack young people and people who are more liberal minded. This really is an attack tactic. 

We have problems in the world that must be addressed now. There must be some leverage of the money that has been amassed in tax havens. We get to stop that and the world needs to agree on that now. It's part of the process for repairing the world. We get to start considering and noticing the planet.

There's actually a great deal of enthusiasm to do that. The only stoppers are those who have a vested interest in retaining the status quo. That's why I believe in giving leadership to young people, because they get it. Their future is at stake.”

Have a listen as I interview my special guest Mike Stevenson.