Federal agencies expanding their power beyond congressional intent? Unelected bureaucrats making policy decisions? Regulatory whiplash?! According to the litigants urging the Supreme Court to strike down the Chevron doctrine in the Loper Bright case, those were the harms Americans would continue to face if Chevron deference were allowed to continue.

But striking down the pivotal legal principle that had been in place for 40 years would bring its own risks, defenders of Chevron argued. Scientific and technical decisions would need to be made by judges with no specialized expertise. Regulatory uncertainty would soar, as thousands of existing rules face new challenges. And the Supreme Court itself could be forced to become, as Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson put it, "uber-legislators."

In part two of our episode on Loper Bright, the high court ostensibly considers the plight of the herring fishermen, but actually looks to decide whether to abandon the Chevron doctrine once and for all.Stylebook flag

Featured Guests:

Ryan Mulvey, counsel with the Cause of Action Institute

Jeff Kaelin, director of sustainability and government relations at Lund’s Fisheries

Wayne Reichle, President of Lund's Fisheries

Gillian Metzger, Harlan Fiske Stone Professor of constitutional law at Columbia University

Lydia Wheeler, co-host of Cases and Controversies & Supreme Court reporter for Bloomberg Law

Greg Stohr, co-host of Cases and Controversies & Supreme Court reporter for Bloomberg News

Kimberly Robinson, co-host of Cases and Controversies & Supreme Court reporter for Bloomberg Law

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Hosted and produced by Matthew S. Schwartz

Editor/Executive Producer: Josh Block

Cover Art: Jonathan Hurtarte

Special thanks to Tom Taylor, David Schultz, Paul Detrick, Isabel Gottlieb, and Matt's baby for their vocal performances.