Chris interviews Dr. Karen Swallow Prior about her new book, You Have a Calling: Finding Your Vocation in the True, Good, and Beautiful. Hear about how "follow your passion" is terrible career advice, how doing ordinary things well can deeply honor God, and how calling can transcend profession and pay. Regardless of what we do for a living, all of us are called to pursue truth, goodness, and beauty as we do it, and in the rest of life.

Karen Swallow Prior (PhD, SUNY Buffalo) is the author of The Evangelical Imagination and On Reading Well. She is a frequent speaker, a senior fellow at the Trinity Forum, a contributing writer at The Dispatch, and a monthly columnist at Religion News Service. You can find Karen's writing at her website or on her Substack, The Priory.

Sources: Karen Swallow Prior, You Have a Calling: Finding Your Vocation in the True, Good, and Beautiful (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Brazos Press, 2025).

Cal Newport, "On Passion and Its Discontents," CalNewport.com, June 30, 2018.

Dorothy Sayers, "Why Work?" in The Mind of the Maker (London: Methuen, 1942), Villanova University.

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