Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Rachel Haywire about her presidential candidacy, what led her to art & philosophy, the art right, her view of the memetic tribal landscape, the power of memes, her critique on Jared & Jason's meta tribe, the role & power of aesthetics, psychic fascism, the challenges & benefits of embodiment, pain & suffering, spiritual materialism, embodied VR, politics as aesthetic, tribal immune systems, memetic fashion, the 'NPC' meme, transgressive arts, and much more!

In this Episode of Both/And

• Haywire2020.com
• Trigger Warning
• Jason on Embodiment Practice
• Unified Mindfulness
• The Eternal Retreat
• Twitter Questions
• Avant Design
• Thus Spoke Zarathustra

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