Both/And

Jared Janes & Jason Snyder reunite after 17 months of Both/And hiatus. In this wide-ranging conversation, they talk about what they've been up to and how their perspectives of the sensemaking/meta/liminal web have changed.

Jared Janes & Jason Snyder come back one more time to give awards to stand-out Both/And episodes. First, they talk about what they've been up to for the past couple of months and then get to the awards: Most Convivial, Most Intellectually Stimulating, Most Challenging to My Worldview, Most Star-Struck, & MVP. Along the way, they also make a bunch of honorable mentions.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Award Winners
• #22 Meta-Rationality & Sexuality with Jessica
• #37 Dancing with COVID with Sarah McManus
• #42 The Ever-Present with Jeremy Johnson
• #25 Horrorism & Culture with Zero HP Lovecraft
• #29 Reducing Suffering with Evan Sandhoefner
• #14 Paradigm Shifting with Erik Davis
• #19 Contextualizing the Spiritual with Jordan Hall
• #32 Regenerating Earth with Joe Brewer
• #41 Simpol Global Action with John Bunzl
• Mentions
• Donella Meadows' paper, Leverage Points
• Tyson Yunkaporta's book, Sand Talk
• Both/And Meets Growing Down
• #30 Aesthetic Embodiment with Rachel Haywire
• #4 Climate Change Adaptation & Meditation with Udita Sanga
• #24 Religion, Creativity & Deleuze with Justin Murphy
• #9 Analyzing Both And with Nathan Snyder
• #2 Memetic Mediation with Peter Limberg

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Jared Janes & Jason Snyder talk about Both/And's hiatus, the sensemaking web, podcasting as a medium, memetic mediation, local community, going 'meta', spirituality, their friendship, COVID, contemporary Vajrayana Buddism, their political triggers, the meta/integral left, GameB, thank you's, the Both/And awards, and more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Jason's article, The Psychodynamics of Memetic Mediation
• Jared's new Podcast
• Jared & Charlie's Stoa Session
• Twitter Questions
• Joe Brewer
• The Unsettling of America by Wendell Berry
• Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens
• Sand Talk by Tyson Yunkaporta
• The Jim Rutt Show and The Wright Show
• JRS: EP63 Michel Bauwens on P2P & Commons
• Tyson Yunkaporta on the Jim Rutt Show: Part 1 and Part 2
• Aro gTér Buddhism
• Charlie Awbery
• Unified Mindfulness
• Culadasa
• Growing Down Podcast with Jeremy Johnson and Ryan Nakade
• B/A #42 The Ever-Present with Jeremy Johnson

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Leslie Rogers about what led him to start the Light Dark Institute, being in a sex cult, kink & BDSM, his dark awakening, personality & identity transformation, dark desires, the difference between light & dark personal work, orgasmic meditation & other influences on Leslie's practices, tantra, archetypes & deities, pleasure, healing & processing, triggering & mythopoetic power, tribal psycho technologies, nonduality, Jared's inner cynic, civilization collapse & catastrophe, death, pain as pleasure, humiliation, stoicism, and more.

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Jeremy Johnson about what led to his interest in Jean Gebser, the nebulosity of time, non-linear consciousness evolution & developmental theory, Gebser's poetic disposition & extraordinary writing style, the un-perspectival world, integral consciousness, the limits of intellect & complex abstraction, the ever-present, mythical consciousness, pattern & nebulosity, wholeness & the spiritual elements of Gebser's work, process orientation vs systemization, maps as living systems, comparing Gebser's view to Integral levels, the danger of meta-theories, the value of pop art, and more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Mutations Podcast
• Jeremy's Patreon
• Jeremy's book, Seeing Through the World
• Liminal Magazine
• The Ever-Present Origin by Jean Gebser
• The Phenomenon of Man by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
• The Progress of This Storm by Andreas Malm
• Jeremy's Side View article, Meta, Modern
• Small Arcs of Larger Circles by Nora Bateson
• Twitter Questions
• Figuring by Maria Popova
• Seeing That Frees by Rob Burbea

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with John Bunzl about why he started Simpol & how it enables global cooperation, his multi-issue approach to global issues, UN target failures, first-mover criteria, the democratic accountability strategy, partisanship, global pandemic preparation, efficiency vs resilience, power in metrics, cooperative competition, biomimicry in Simpol, Simpol's history & progress, the role of the nation-state, regional cooperation, diversity & locality, tyranny, getting involved, and more.

In this Episode of Both/And (recorded 4/21/20)

• Simpol
• The Stoa
• Twitter Questions
• Simpol Policy Information Pack
• The SIMPOL SOLUTION Book

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Jared Janes & Jason Snyder talk about humility, memetic mediation, Patreon goals & perks, acting from uncertainty, embodiment & trauma/baggage, map vs territory, individual vs group development, mindfulness, compassion, nonduality & enlightenment, tantric practice, guru abuse, emerging modern spirituality & the limitations of intellect, the void, subtle sensations & the brilliance of the mundane, constructed cognition, what we're both concentrated on at the moment, and more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Both/And Patreon
• The Stoa
• Jared's The Good, the True, the Beautiful Series
• Twitter Questions
• B/A: #39 Enabling Collaboration with Richard Bartlett
• Bodhidave Tweet
• Guided Christian Centering Prayer
• Rob Burbea

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Richard Bartlett about what led to his interest in group dynamics, quarantine in Italy, local vs digital collaboration, social enterprise, metamodernism & an action-oriented critique, rivalrous dynamics, the commons, experimentation vs abstraction, GameB, hierarchies, efficiency vs resilience, counter-cultural group dysfunctions, the economic purity delusion, mythopoetic cultural influence, the meta-tribe, memetic mediators & ambassadors, connecting elements of COVID-19, digital/complexity natives, creating digital communitas, and more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Enspiral | Loomio | The Hum | Microsolidarity.cc
• Elinor Ostrom's 8 Principles for Managing A Commmons
• On Leaving the Church of Social Justice
• Jim Rutt
• Queer Eye
• B/A: #37 Dancing with COVID with Sarah McManus
• Twitter Question
• Jack Murphy
• Memetic Mediators Slack
• B/A: #22 Meta-Rationality & Sexuality with Jessica
• Rebel Wisdom: Predicting the Pandemic, Nora Bateson, Joe Brewer & Jim Rutt
• The Stoa

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Anna Gat about her background & the Interintellect (I.I.), the structure of I.I. salons & how they're adjusting to COVID-19, uncovering our true social needs in quarantine, local vs virtual community, unifying dynamics of global crisis, COVID paradoxes & artifacts, redefining extraordinary & genius, enabling constraints, adversity, governance, memetic mediation, our tribal histories, leadership, what Anna is working on now, and much more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• The Interintellect
• Anna's article, Good Life
• Article on COVID Responsibility, You're Part of History Now
• Anna's article, As We May Adult
• B/A #6 Thriving in Modernity with Euvie Ivanova
• Richard Bartlett
• Peter Limberg

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Sarah McManus about her background, her emotional & psychological experience of contracting COVID-19, her ayahuasca shamanic apprenticeship in Peru, helplessness, emotional processing, the Bio-Emotive Framework, Buddhist practices & traditions, suffering, building & integrating new cultural platforms, reframing human development, pandemic fragility, learnings from Burning Man, dynamics of self-isolation, moving forward, chaos, order, and much more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Sarah's Roam Page
• Twitter Questions
• Human Age on Twitter
• Neural Annealing: Toward a Neural Theory of Everything
• Clean Up, Wake Up, Grow Up with Ken Wilber
• Doug Tataryn
• Already Free by Bruce Tift
• INVISIBILIA Podcast: The Reluctant Immortalist
• Star Trek The Next Generation S1E2
• B/A: #35 Erotic Potential with Debby Friday
• Nora Bateson on the Emerge Podcast
• Game B
• The Context Institute - videos on cultural operating systems
• Spiral Dynamics
• Collaborative "nucleation sites"
• Cultures and cultural platforms
• The Circles Maps
• The Egg by Andy Weir
• The Stoa
• Anis Mojgani performs Shake the Dust

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