Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Michael Brooks about what his show (TMBS) is about, his history with Integral Theory & meditation, his political perspective, the Kurdish situation in Rojava, dangers of idealism & ahistorical thinking, why politics needs spirituality, Michael's view on today's political narratives, his recent meditation retreat, how the Four Quadrants of Integral could impact political discourse, markets vs capitalism, centralization vs decentralization, fractal localism, and much more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Brent Cooper
• Michael Brooks Show
• Hanzi Metamodernism
• Integral Theory
• Exiting the Vampire Castle by Mark Fisher
• Jacobin
• Michael's Article, The Annihilation of Rojava
• Mondragon Corporations
• Globalists by Laboian
• Twitter Questions

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with the anonymous horrorist, Zero HP Lovecraft about why he started writing & where his alias came from, his new book, his creative process & influences, the horrorist aesthetic, the unknowability of our own values, the self & culture as software, media's impact on culture, his view on the future & contemplative development, euphoric depersonalization, the role of pain & suffering, societal hierarchies, cultural colonialism & design, chaos & order, and much more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• God-Shaped Hole
• Erotism: Death and Sensuality
• The Transparency of Evil
• The Gutenberg Galaxy
• Twitter Questions
• Slate Star Codex Article: The PNSE Paper

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with political scientist Justin Murphy about his path to becoming an independent artist & intellectual, what it means to him to be a libertarian communist, foundations of intrinsic human equality, his unique take on Gilles Deleuze in his new book Based Deleuze, creativity, Urbit and more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Justin's Podcast & Site, Other Life
• Episode Twitter Questions

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Integral Psychologist Mark Forman about his journey to Integral theory & transpersonal psychology, how it differs from traditional psych, Integral's four quadrants & levels/stages frameworks, Sam Harris's conversational challenges, perspective-shifting, his reflections on practicing psych, trauma, authoritarian tendencies on the left & right, Trump's cultural impact, the state of the IDW & Integral, his view on metamodernism, and the Freudian unconscious.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Reinventing Organizations by Frederic Laloux
• Jared's Reddit Post
• Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson Conversations
  • Sam Harris Podcast: WHAT IS TRUE?
  • Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson - Vancouver - 1
  • Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson - Vancouver - 2
• Ken Wilber: The Intellectual Dark Web, an Integral Conversation?
• Roy Bhaskar's article What is Critical Realism?
• The Brain and the Inner World: An Introduction to the Neuroscience of the Subjective Experience by Mark Solms
• Twitter Questions
• Mark's Website
• CIT Integral Page

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder have a wide-ranging chat with Jessica (@ssica3003) about her path to meta-rationality, her views on feminism, activism, post-modernism, men's rights, restorative vs retributive justice, utopian thinking, how meta-rationality relates & connects to bisexual life, polyamory, incels, cultural design, and much more!

In this Episode of Both/And

• Jessica's blog and YouTube Channel
• David Chapman & his website, Meaningness
• Meta-Rationality
• Summary of Kegan Stage 5 Principles
• Reaching Stage 5 - non STEM
• LessWrong
• Cross+Pollination Zine
• Twitter Questions
• Peter Limberg
• #16 Mind Fitness & Gender with Chance Lunceford
• Hades, an egregore
• Azathoth Egregore: "An Alien God"
• Moloch Egregore: "MEDITATIONS ON MOLOCH"
• Ra Egregore: "Ra"

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk about upcoming episodes, the Both/And Patreon launch, and speculate about the types of emergent collaboration that will arise from it.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Upcoming Guests: Jessica, Mark Forman, Justin Murphy, Paul Millerd, David Atkinson, Michael Brooks, Rob Cobbold of Conscious Evolution, Zero HP Lovecraft
• David Chapman
• Integral Theory
  • Ken Wilber
  • Four Quadrants
• #17 Reflecting on Both/And Episodes & Themes
• #20 What's Metamodern with Linda Ceriello & Greg Dember
• Holochain
• Zero HP Lovecraft Twitter Thread
• Rob Cobbold (Conscious Evo) Interview
• (40:50) Patreon.com/BothAnd
• Gwendolyn Huot
• Christian (@chrxn)
• [email protected]

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Linda Ceriello and Greg Dember about metamodernism as a cultural sensibility, traditionalism, modernism, postmodernism, what led them to start What Is Metamodern?, metamodern methods that media commonly uses, the ways metamodernism is interpreted, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Listening Society, and much more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• What Is Metamodern?
• Article: After Postmodernism: Eleven Metamodern Methods in the Arts
• Journal Article: Notes on metamodernism
• Essay: Taxonomy of Metamodern Monsters in Linda's essay (pages 213-214 - login required)
• Linda's Email
• Greg & Linda Suggestions
  • Playlist: Metamodern Music: Indie Rock 1995-2005
  • Video Essay: Rick and Morty: Character Archetypes & Metamodernism
  • Video Essay: Jose Chung's The Bridge to the Metamodern
  • Book: Metamodernism: Historicity, Affect, and Depth after Postmodernism

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Jordan Hall about how spirituality relates to sovereignty, deep code, virtuous feedback loops, individual & cultural development, the logos of robots, intuition, the weird, parenthood and more!

In this Episode of Both/And

• Recommended Jordan Interviews
  • Zion 2.0 Podcast: Part 1, Distributed Intelligence & Part 2, Our Future Sense-Making
  • Emerge Podcast: Sovereignty, Resonance, and Liminality
  • Rebel Wisdom: Deep Code: Jordan (Green)Hall Documentary
  • The Jim Rutt Show Interview
  • Other Life Podcast: Deep Code with Jordan Hall
  • Intellectual Explorers Podcast Interview
• John Vervaeke
• Jason on Self inquiry
• Jordan's Article on Sovereignty
• Jim Rutt
• Twitter Questions
• ALTER EGO Video: "Can Extinction Rebellion Unlock Collective Sacrifice?"

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Evan Driscoll about what leads to dysfunctional systems, coordination, social isolation, habits & behaviors that create better collective action, following our passions, burnout, hedonism, contemplative practice & more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Evan's Website
• The Emerge Podcast

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder reflect on recent episodes & themes, their evolving perspectives on memetic mediation, and a laundry list of related topics they think are worth exploring more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Episode #1 Who What Why?
• Baha'i Politics
• Tweet: Why meta?
• Episode #15 Being a Baha'i Creative with Samah Tokmachi
• Episode #16 Mind Fitness & Gender with Chance Lunceford
• Chance on Twitter
• Tweet: The plural universe
• Tweet: Diverging parallel realities
• The Four Quadrants
• Article: Memetic Engineering
• Scott Adams
• Book: The Elephant in the Brain: Hidden Motives in Everyday Life
• Emerge Podcast Episode: Daniel Schmachtenberger - Utopia or Bust
• Episode #10 Culture, Tech & Collaboration with Jess
• Euvie Ivanova
• Future Guests: Evan Driscoll, What Is Metamodern? & Jordan Hall

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