Both/And

Jared Janes & Jason Snyder answer Twitter Questions and cover bio-regenerational orientations, COVID-19 induced mindfulness, tragedy & transformation, emotional escape & capture vs wholistic engagement, pluralistic food systems, the potential of minority rule, the role of the curator, the fragility of capitalist systems, future forcing functions, collecting & utilizing mental models, kinetic & meta tribes, skin in the game, learning through failure, tribal exposure & apprenticeship, Jason & Jared's contemplative practices, and more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Twitter Questions
• #13 Problematizing Food Systems with Stephanie White
• #35 Erotic Potential with Debby Friday
• Nassim Taleb on Minority Rule
• Donella Meadows' Leverage Points Paper
• Donella Meadows' Dancing With Systems
• The Patterning Instinct by Jeremy Lent
• Jim Rutt
• Jason's article, Integrating Mindfulness & Self-Inquiry
• Jared's Guided Meditation on The Stoa
• Jared's Death Session on The Stoa
• Email Both/And

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with musician, artist & writer Debby Friday about reflecting in quarantine, how she sees the erotic as a lifeforce, embodiment & performance, COVID-19 impact on touring artists & what Debby has been doing while social distancing, cultural habit, virus as a ghost, death denial & death drive, tantric practice, creativity, pop music, the power of ritual, the church of social justice, evoking spirit & much more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Debby's Blog, CRACKING CLOSER
• Debby's Article, TOGETHER, ALWAYS TOGETHER
• Sabina Spielrein
• Dave Chappelle Acceptance Speech
• Debby Friday Tracks in Episode
  • INDULGE ME, VOID & AMOR FATI from BITCHPUNK
  • FATAL from DEATH DRIVE

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Nathan Spears about his journey from religion to atheism and back again, Orthodox Christianity, modernizing religion, Vervaeke's four ways of knowing, the value of Christian language & story, bridging phenomenology & epistemology, the dynamics of belief, attention & intention, perennial philosophy, the body of Christ, and much more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Nathan on Twitter
• Cognitive Science & the Sacred with Vervaeke & Pageau
• God & Relevance Realization with Vervaeke & Pageau
• Dominion by Tom Holland
• #15 Being a Baha'i Creative with Samah Tokmachi
• The Cloud of Unknowing
• The Mind Illuminated by John Yates
• Enneagram of Personality
• Hammering Hot Iron by Charles Upton

People Mentioned: David Chapman, John Vervaeke, Daniel Thorson, Collin Morris, Jordan Hall, Guy Sengstock, Jonathan Pageau, Shinzen Young, David Bentley Hart

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder have a wide-ranging chat about their podcast supporters, how Both/And could evolve, informal vs formal spiritual practice, stream entry & the path of awakening, exploring perspectives of the 'self', embodied cognition, enactivism, memetic mediation, bioregional living, collapse, xenophobia vs diversity, the future of localism, psychological/cultural development, fluid politics, silence, vulnerability, how Jason & Jared disagree, and much more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Both/And on Patron
• Twitter Questions
• Jason's article, Integrating Mindfulness & Self-Inquiry
• Mind In Life by Evan Thompson
• The Side View
• Peter Linberg
• Memetic Mediation Slack Group
• #32 Regenerating Earth with Joe Brewer
• OODA Loop
• Elinor Ostrom's 8 Principles for Managing A Commmons
• Jeremy Johnson
• #23 Integral Psych & Culture with Mark Forman
• The Imperfect Buddha | Daniel Ingram on Integral Theory
• The Musing Mind Podcast
• #31 Conscious Evolution with Rob Cobbold
• The Jim Rutt Show

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Joe Brewer about the impact of conceptuality on perception & embodiment, the impossibility of understanding planetary collapse & what that means, getting lost in abstraction & duality, personal & ecological trauma, making & breaking conceptual frames, cancerous human thinking, the invisible regenerative revolution, the dynamics of coercion, top-down vs bottom-up regeneration, ecological succession, sustainable life-systems, acting bioregionally, and more!

In this Episode of Both/And

• Cargo Cults
• Dr. Zachary Stein
• The Century of the Self
• Joanna Macy
• Twitter Questions
• Donella Meadows' Leverage Points Paper
• Joe's Earth Regenerator Group

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Rob Cobbold about what led him to orient his life towards Conscious Evolution & what its core components are, the shortsightedness of antinatalism, spirituality & dualism, consciousness & ethics, limits of materialism & rationality, global governance, money, debt & interest, alternative currencies, societal flourishing, collapse & much more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Meta Twitter Thread
• John Stewart
• Sex, Ecology, Spirituality by Ken Wilber
• Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert M Pirsig
• Simpol.org
• Rob's Curious Bodhi Interview
• Elinor Ostrom's 8 Principles for Managing A Commmons
• Joe Brewer
• OpenCredit.Network
• Earfh.com

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Rachel Haywire about her presidential candidacy, what led her to art & philosophy, the art right, her view of the memetic tribal landscape, the power of memes, her critique on Jared & Jason's meta tribe, the role & power of aesthetics, psychic fascism, the challenges & benefits of embodiment, pain & suffering, spiritual materialism, embodied VR, politics as aesthetic, tribal immune systems, memetic fashion, the 'NPC' meme, transgressive arts, and much more!

In this Episode of Both/And

• Haywire2020.com
• Trigger Warning
• Jason on Embodiment Practice
• Unified Mindfulness
• The Eternal Retreat
• Twitter Questions
• Avant Design
• Thus Spoke Zarathustra

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Evan Sandhoefner about what led him to utilitarianism & effective altruism, the flexibility of utilitarianism & some critiques, pluralistic virtue ethics, whether suffering is necessary & how it may affect animals & humans differently, whether we should remove wild predators to prevent animal suffering, creating unintentional animal suffering, consciousness, ethical meat production & factory farming, localism, universal explainers vs computers, intelligence, and more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Givewell
• David Pearce
• David Deutsch
• Twitter Questions
• The Beginning of Infinity by David Deutsch
• Mind in Life by Evan Thompson
• The Ego Tunnel by Thomas Metzinger
• Metzinger & Harris Podcast: The Nature of Consciousness
• Evan's Blog

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with the Commercial Director of Holo/Holochain, David Atkinson. They cover what led David to the Holo team, systems thinking, biomimicry & evolution, the core elements of Holochain, how it compares to the blockchain, scalability, centralization vs decentralization, some potential impacts of this tech, its current phase of development, and much more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Holochain.org
• Holo.host

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Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Paul Millerd about his career path, Jared's recent leap to self-employment, the incentives of benefits & healthcare, history of firm-based vs contract work, expectations of work & its connection to meaning & dignity, local community, the boundary between work & life, basic income, consumerism, GDP determined lifestyles, shared local commons, self-determination theory, the 40-hour workweek, the pathless path, work as service, complexity of teams & the role of chaos, and much more.

In this Episode of Both/And

• Andrew Taggart
• If work dominated your every moment would life be worth living?
• On Bullshit by Harry Frankfurt
• Zachary Stein on The Musing Mind Podcast
• Three Sacred Beliefs Undermining Universal Basic Income
• Drive by Dan Pink
• Twitter Questions

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Jared Janes participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn commissions by linking to Amazon. In more human terms, this means that whenever you buy a book on Amazon from a link on here, a small percentage of its price is sent to us.