Fragmented - AI Developer Podcast

301 - The AI coding ladder


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Most folks reference "AI coding" like it's one thing. It's really not. In this foundational episode Kaushik & Iury walk through (at least) four paradigms — from super autocomplete to agent orchestration — each with different workflows, expectations, and mental models.

What do most developers follow today? Where is the frontier? What's coming in the future?

Listen to the episode and find out!

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Show NotesGen 1: Super autocomplete
  • Intellisense - regular autocomplete
  • Github Copilot
  • Cursor Tab
Gen 2: Chat Oriented Programming
  • Cursor IDE
  • Firebender
Gen 3: Agent
  • Nvidia's definition of an Agent
  • ReAct Prompting
  • Chain of Thought was a prompting hack
  • DeepSeek
    • DeepSeek - R1 paper
  • TUI tools (or Harnesses):
    • Claude Code
    • Open Code
    • Codex Cli
    • Gemini Cli
  • IDE style tools
    • Cursor Agent
    • Copilot (MS)
    • Junie - Intellij
    • Antigravity - Google
  • Headless Tools:
    • Jules - Google
    • Claude Code on the Web
    • Codex Web
Gen 4: Agent Orchestration
  • Git worktrees
Tips
  • Iury: Transfer between agents using your own
    compact command
  • KG: Ask the agent to clarify your prompt

Confirm if my requirements are clear. If you have follow up questions, ask me
first and clarify before executing anything.

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  • Iury Souza
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