In this conversation, Levi sits down for a long-anticipated conversation with Ross Chapin, who instigated a national revival of "pocket neighborhoods"—small clusters of homes designed to foster real community. Ross shares how a single project in a small Washington town sparked a national movement and reshaped how we think about neighborhood design. We explore the foundational ideas behind his work, including the “scale of sociability,” the use of pattern languages, and the essential role of how the physical design of our built environment shapes everyday human connection. Ross also offers practical insights for townbuilding, on how to extrapolate these design patterns across the transect while also fostering a resilient community culture through proper governance. Whether you’re a builder, planner, or someone dreaming of a better neighborhood, this conversation is packed with timeless wisdom and grounded inspiration.