Between Two Worlds

32. Women Pastors and Gender Roles in the Christian Church--Hadeel (Part 3)

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Hadeel and Scott are back for a third episode, and this time she turns the question onto Scott. "So where are you in regards to women in the church....". Insert -gulp- here.  Scott goes into some of the tension he lives in as a Christian in a 21st century context where talk of gender roles and submission can potentially feel like a hate crime. At the same time, he wrestles with the tension of how the Bible describes a gendered world and outlines roles for men and women. This was not an easy conversation; mainly, because of the discomfort with a post modern narrative that a "straight, white, male" like Scott should not have any say in what women can or cannot do. 

So what is God's design for men and women? Can God be trusted if he has different roles for them in the church and in relationships? Or is this all one big rouse from the patriarchy?

Topics Discussed:

  • The barriers, outright and subconscious, that have existed toward women in leadership in Christianity, and how the Bible doesn't make this super easy for our 21st century ears. 
  • Egalitarianism and Complementarianism (the two major schools of thought concerning gender roles in Christianity). 
  • The observation that God made a "gendered" world in Genesis. Living in that tension and trying to figure out why God did what He did.
  • How "straight white males" always ruin a good story. And how it's easy to bristle at the word submission. Yet Hadeel shares how it is easier to submit to a man who is submitted to Christ. 
  • How Christianity is all about submission. The wife is responsible to how she reacts to her husband, and the husband is responsible for how he gives his life for his family. When that mutual submission is there, the marriage flourishes.
  • How do we atone for the sins of the past and still live in confidence in the present. Be conscious of peoples' triggers, while still holding to truth. 

    • And Hadeel's Last Words:

    • For Christians: Get comfortable being uncomfortable. Lets talk about these things. Stay curious when you have a "don't want to talk about that" reaction. Lovingly call each other out. And trust that the Holy Spirit will guide you.
    • For Non Christians: Engage with your Christian friends. Is your job to make us uncomfortable and get us out of our bubble.

      • *We should note that the term sex vs gender are used interchangeably in the episode although they don't necessary have the same weight or meaning for some. We are by no means experts on these topics. Just two Christians trying to figure things out.*

      Questions for the Community:

      • What is your reaction to the idea of submission?
      • Why do you think God made a gendered world?
      • How could the church better empower minority voices within its ranks?

        • Find Hadeel at:

        @hadeelmc

        Listen to her Podcast: Real With Hadeel

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