In a surprising turn of tables, Christopher White (@stoneymonster) joins the show as a guest to talk about his career, burnout, and musical instruments.

Christopher attended Harvey Mudd College for his undergrad mathematics degree then got a Master's degree in physics at San Jose State University.

Some things he has worked on include:

• Multicast

• OSPF

• LISP

• OCT

His current band is 12ax7 (12ax7.fm). The outro music is a track called "Solstice".