We're back with another roundtable, and this week Ashley and I get to chat with two powerhouse guests. Alison Campbell is a former HR tech exec, and now is the founder of unBurnt, a company redefining how we prevent burnout. Dr. Sheryl Ziegler is a clinical psychologist and author of the books Mommy Burnout and The Crucial Years. These two women are on a mission to rewire how we think about stress, success, self-worth, and how we raise the next generation.

Our conversation dives deep into what burnout really feels like, why many of us miss the signs of it, the systems that perpetuate it, how to heal your nervous system, and what it takes to raise burnout-resistant kids. This is a must-listen for anyone tired of just pushing through.

Show links:

• Ashley: And/Both Podcast
• Alison Campbell: unBurnt
• Dr. Sheryl Ziegler: drsherylziegler.com
• Read The Crucial Years: The Essential Guide to Mental Health and Modern Puberty in Middle Childhood (Ages 6-12)
• Read Mommy Burnout: How to Reclaim Your Life and Raise Healthier Children in the Process

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