In this episode, Niall tackles a contentious question: If Donald Trump is vowing to deport all illegal immigrants, should the estimated 50,000 undocumented Irish in the US face the same fate? As debates over immigration policies intensify, many wonder whether we can criticize illegal immigration in Ireland yet oppose deportations of Irish citizens who’ve overstayed in America.

The conversation centers on Trump’s pledge to remove all undocumented migrants, a stance that could deeply affect thousands of Irish people who have built lives, families, and businesses in the United States. Critics argue that mass deportation would be unjust and ignore the contributions these immigrants have made—often paying taxes and participating in their communities for decades. Others maintain that laws should be enforced consistently: if undocumented immigrants in Ireland face deportation, the same principle should apply to Irish citizens without legal status in the US.

Some callers insist you can’t have it both ways. If we expect Ireland’s immigration rules to be respected, it’s only fair to accept the US enforcing its own laws on undocumented Irish. After all, they willingly took the risk by remaining in the country illegally, and if Trump decides to deport them, so be it.

Others believe an outright expulsion is too harsh, especially for those who’ve contributed to American society for years. Many undocumented Irish have jobs, pay taxes under the table, and have children born and raised in the US. For these callers, a pathway to legalization or an amnesty program would be more compassionate and pragmatic than uprooting families and sending them back to Ireland after decades.

Niall concludes by reflecting on the complexity of immigration law and whether the Irish public’s stance on migrants at home contradicts their defense of undocumented Irish abroad. Ultimately, the debate highlights the human faces behind immigration policy and the challenges of reconciling legal principles with compassion.