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35- John Vervaeke on Time, Faith and Myth During the Time of Coronavirus


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The Coronavirus has thrust the world into a crisis of arguably biblical proportions. And with that, people are falling back onto mytho-poetic ways of thinking. This urgent crisis has come in the middle of a larger, more general crisis of meaning, and the situation as a whole has left society flailing. It seems we find ourselves in a kairos, or critical moment, for the future of humanity.

In this episode, Dr. John Vervaeke, award-winning lecturer on psychology, cognitive science and Buddhist psychology, joins us to discuss the interrelationships of time, faith, and mythology in the context of the Coronavirus crisis and the broader Meaning Crisis.

How is the current crisis affecting our sense of-- or perhaps the actual phenomenon-- of time? Do present events charge parts of our past with new energy?

In times of uncertainty, are certain forms of faith detrimental or even toxic?

Can we use this moment towards a new future with new forms of organization based on small world networks rather than static, top-down hierarchies?

And how can we cultivate the 'finesse' required to navigate a transition like this?

1:20 How is John on a personal level? 5:00 This may not be our only pandemic. 7:30 Do we avoid damaging the planet, or do we "weather the storm" and grow stronger? 9:00 Does capitalism lead to pandemics? 12:20 There is no 'going back to normal. 14:00 Do people feel more meaning during the Coronavirus crisis? 17:00 Surrealism 23:00 Right hemisphere/mytho-poetic thinking 29:00 The medieval imagery of modern events 30:00 Zach Stein "A War Broke Out in Heaven" 31:30 "Meaning Kairos" 32:45 Decentralizing education 38:00 Revolution of the dynamically recursive small world network vs the iron-age hierarchy 42:40 Warm data 47:00 Messianic time 55:15 Attractors of the new way 57:20 Reformulation of the notion of faith 1:03:00 How to avoid the utopian fallacy 1:08:40 "I won't live a life of fear"/"The unexamined life is not worth living" 1:13:00 Flow states/the myth of Jesus 1:14:40 Sage myths and hubris myths forgotten, warrior myths overemphasized 1:16:30 Digital campfires

REFERENCES & MORE:

John Vervaeke, 'Awakening from the Meaning Crisis' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54l8_ewcOlY

Zachary Stein, 'A War Broke Out in Heaven' https://www.whatisemerging.com/opinions/covid-19-a-war-broke-out-in-heaven

The Meaning Kairos: our current turning point in meaning w/ Peter Limberg and the Online Stoa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoi9GE9e_vM

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