In this episode, Oliver interviews Sampo Heitanen, CEO of MaaS Global/Whim on their mobility as a service subscription model they have in Helsinki and a number of other markets.

Specifically we cover:

- How MaaS Global came to be started

- The unique context of Helsinki’s regulatory environment and the enabling factors that made it a great first market

- The challenges and opportunities of scaling mobility as a service offerings - ticketing, API’s, regulatory barriers and walled gardens

- The importance of docked and dockless micromobility in driving down the costs of the subscription model

- Their customer demographics and how this has driven their choices around subscription packages

- How he thinks about Uber’s walled garden efforts in the mobility as a service space

- The role of governments/regulators in encouraging mobility as a service offerings

It’s a great conversation about the shift of business models to mobility-as-a-service subscriptions, underpinned by micromobility.