In this episode, Jeremy and Maddy dive deep into their struggles with feelings of gloom and melancholy. They open up about the emotional valley they found themselves in during the past few months and discuss how these low moments, while tough, can be transformative. Together, they explore why experiencing these emotions is a crucial part of personal growth and how learning to navigate and overcome them can ultimately make you stronger.

Show notes

(02:10) What is meant by staying in the valley? (13:17) Maddy’s experience of being in the valley. (20:10) Self-awareness and regulating your emotions. (23:40) Jeremy’s example of regulating emotions. (29:15) Maddy’s way of coping with emotions. (41:40) Quotes of the day. (44:00) Song of the day.

Maddy’s quote: This too shall pass.

Jeremy’s quote, by Amy Winehouse: I need to write songs because I need to make something good out of something bad.

Hosts: Jeremy Lee (@jemcocktails) and Madeline Liew (@maddyliew)

Producer: Paul Ng (@wanderwavestudio)