Join us as Pastor Nic chats with Pastor Adam Mabry, the head pastor at Aletheia Church in Boston, MA. Their conversation explores six stages: Recognition of God, Life of Discipleship, Productive Life, The Journey Inward, The Journey Outward, and Life of Love. They discuss how these stages manifest in Christian life, particularly focusing on the challenges believers face when hitting "the wall" in their spiritual journey. They offer insights on navigating difficult periods of faith, the importance of perseverance in church communities, and the value of understanding these stages for both pastors and congregation members.

This episode also provides practical advice for Christians struggling with their faith or considering leaving their churches, emphasizing the importance of pushing through difficult times for spiritual growth. It also touches on the challenges faced by pastors and the need for churches to support their spiritual leaders.

Engage & Equip is a resource designed to help form substantive disciples for the local church.

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Music: HOME—We're Finally Landing, Nosebleed, If I'm Wrong ([https://midwestcollective.bandcamp.com/album/before-the-night)](https://music.midwestcollective.us/track/were-finally-landing)