On this week's podcast Paul sits down with Dr. Deane Waldman. Deane is a former pediatric cardiologist at UNMH in Albuquerque. In addition to practicing as a medical doctor, he has an MBA and writes regularly on health care issues on his website. Paul and Dr. Deane talk extensively about COVID and how the medical establishment failed over the last two years. Deane and Paul leave no stones unturned in this thought-provoking and informative conversation.