This episode is a conversation between the Gibson brothers, one a pastor and the other an engineer with theological training, discussing how to make decisions about pursuing vocational ministry versus other careers. The core message is that loving Jesus intensely doesn't automatically mean someone should become a pastor, and there's no requirement for a mystical "calling" to enter ministry. They emphasize that both ministry and secular work are valuable pursuits, with secular work fulfilling the "creation mandate" from Genesis to bring order from chaos. The Gibsons suggest that instead of waiting for certainty about God's will, people should try different roles, develop various skills, build relationships, and make wise choices based on their temperament, abilities, and circumstances. They argue that the desire for absolute certainty in career decisions often stems from anxiety rather than faith, and that God can work through multiple paths to accomplish His purposes.

Engage & Equip is a resource designed to help form substantive disciples for the local church.

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Music: HOME—We're Finally Landing, Nosebleed, If I'm Wrong (https://midwestcollective.bandcamp.com/album/before-the-night)