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The legendary César Ordóñez of Cen Cal Bonsai once shared a simple but powerful truth:
“It sucks to buy a tree and cut off all the branches, but it also sucks to have a shitty tree.”
In this episode of the Black Pondo Podcast, we dive deep into all things deciduous bonsai. I got to pick Peter’s brain about César’s quote—discussing when it makes sense to completely restart a deciduous bonsai and when it’s better to continue refining the existing design.
We explore what truly makes a great deciduous bonsai, common pitfalls seen in the U.S., Japanese aesthetics, and much more.
I really appreciate you tuning in, and I hope you enjoy the conversation.
By Lee Bonsai5
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The legendary César Ordóñez of Cen Cal Bonsai once shared a simple but powerful truth:
“It sucks to buy a tree and cut off all the branches, but it also sucks to have a shitty tree.”
In this episode of the Black Pondo Podcast, we dive deep into all things deciduous bonsai. I got to pick Peter’s brain about César’s quote—discussing when it makes sense to completely restart a deciduous bonsai and when it’s better to continue refining the existing design.
We explore what truly makes a great deciduous bonsai, common pitfalls seen in the U.S., Japanese aesthetics, and much more.
I really appreciate you tuning in, and I hope you enjoy the conversation.

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