UMO (@unknownmortalorchestra) is the band, and Ruban Neilson is who I talked to in this episode. Ruban is from New Zealand, but started UMO in Portland, Oregon where he's lived for several years now. We talked about how he got here, his first tours, and how he made his great new album Multi-Love (out now on @jagjaguwar). Plus, punk house chili makes another appearance.