The Slap was top of mind for us and everyone else in the world, so by popular request, we talk how we experienced it as avid consumers of celebrity culture (Liz) and survivors of toxic masculinity (Chris).  Then, continuing our conversation about managing our thirtysomething lives, we dig into the division of labor in our households -- the messages we got growing up, what this looks like now with our partners, and if it can ever be truly even in heterosexual partnerships.  Plus, one of our favorite top fives ever: Asian snacks!  It was hard to narrow down this universe of deliciousness to five favorites, but somehow we managed.  And now we're starving.

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Art by Colin Turnbull (colinpturnbull.com)

Music by Origami Pigeon