In episode 14 of "The No Script Show," Nathan Wrigley and David Waumsley discuss the division between UX designers and JavaScript specialists, focusing on Chris Coyier’s article “The Great Divide.” After halting their work together on the WP Builds podcast, due to David’s shift towards minimalist web development with HTML and CSS, they launched "The No Script Show" to explore this new approach. This episode, the last to be featured on WP Builds, delves into whether the divide between HTML/CSS-first developers and JS framework specialists has narrowed over the years, touching on advancements in CSS, web components, and web standards, and examining ongoing issues such as gatekeeping and accessibility.