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39. Ayahuasca Integration: A Nervous System-First Conversation on Surrender, Community & “Resting the Interpreter” with Ian LLoyd
Journeying with ayahuasca isn’t just about what happens when you drink it.
It’s about what happens before—and especially after.
In this episode, I sit down with Ian Lloyd just three months after sharing a couple ceremonies together in Colombia, to unpack the less talked-about part of the medicine path: integration.
This isn’t a conversation about spiritual performance or peak experiences. It’s about the tenacity it takes to sit with confusion, tenderness, and truth.
Inside, we explore:
- How the medicine chose us—not the other way around
- What surrender really means, and how to “rest the interpreter”
- Why nervous system safety is the foundation of transformation
- The tenderness — and sacredness — of confusion
- How holding space the right way changes lives
- The role of community, co-regulation, and being witnessed
- Why your deepest gifts are hidden behind shame—and how to reclaim them
Yes, there are medicine stories woven in. But this is about so much more:
Walking with integrity, being held in our vulnerability, and trusting the deep intelligence of the body.
Enjoyed this episode? You'll enjoy my brand new grounding meditation! Grab it for free on:
www.clairepoho.com/free-meditation
Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast!
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Plant Medicine Journeys
02:06 Ian's Decision to Participate
02:47 The Experience of Connection and Community
03:40 Resistance and Surrender in Inner Work
06:06 Integration After the Journey
08:27 The Disorienting Nature of Transformation
10:09 The Role of the Interpreter in Experiences
12:20 The Ingenious Nature of Plant Medicine
14:39 Courage in Embracing True Self
16:55 Navigating the Journey with Intuition
19:52 The Sacredness of Plant Medicine
22:25 Final Thoughts on the Journey
27:53 Facing Challenges in Personal Growth
29:50 The Intensity of Healing Journeys
30:26 The Power of Collective Support
32:48 Embracing Vulnerability and Authenticity
42:14 The Importance of Asking for Support
51:38 The Sacredness of Holding Space
54:52 Slowing Down and Embracing Presence
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By Claire PohoJourneying with ayahuasca isn’t just about what happens when you drink it.
It’s about what happens before—and especially after.
In this episode, I sit down with Ian Lloyd just three months after sharing a couple ceremonies together in Colombia, to unpack the less talked-about part of the medicine path: integration.
This isn’t a conversation about spiritual performance or peak experiences. It’s about the tenacity it takes to sit with confusion, tenderness, and truth.
Inside, we explore:
- How the medicine chose us—not the other way around
- What surrender really means, and how to “rest the interpreter”
- Why nervous system safety is the foundation of transformation
- The tenderness — and sacredness — of confusion
- How holding space the right way changes lives
- The role of community, co-regulation, and being witnessed
- Why your deepest gifts are hidden behind shame—and how to reclaim them
Yes, there are medicine stories woven in. But this is about so much more:
Walking with integrity, being held in our vulnerability, and trusting the deep intelligence of the body.
Enjoyed this episode? You'll enjoy my brand new grounding meditation! Grab it for free on:
www.clairepoho.com/free-meditation
Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast!
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Plant Medicine Journeys
02:06 Ian's Decision to Participate
02:47 The Experience of Connection and Community
03:40 Resistance and Surrender in Inner Work
06:06 Integration After the Journey
08:27 The Disorienting Nature of Transformation
10:09 The Role of the Interpreter in Experiences
12:20 The Ingenious Nature of Plant Medicine
14:39 Courage in Embracing True Self
16:55 Navigating the Journey with Intuition
19:52 The Sacredness of Plant Medicine
22:25 Final Thoughts on the Journey
27:53 Facing Challenges in Personal Growth
29:50 The Intensity of Healing Journeys
30:26 The Power of Collective Support
32:48 Embracing Vulnerability and Authenticity
42:14 The Importance of Asking for Support
51:38 The Sacredness of Holding Space
54:52 Slowing Down and Embracing Presence