On Episode #4, Jess talks with Seattle based writer & thinker Sara Billups, author of Orphaned Believers: how a generation of Christian exiles can find the way home.

In this episode, Sara and Jess connect over their shared sense of spiritual and political homelessness in recent years. They also converse about identifying as "Christians" not only in beliefs, but in title, despite the baggage the name seems to carry. 

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