A while back Jordan and Dave masked up to have an outdoors, socially-distanced interview with They Might Be Giants collaborator Kurt Hoffman! Kurt is a multi-instrumentalist, composer, songwriter and visual artist whose footprints are all over TMBG, from opening for them on their Flood tour as part of the legendary group The Ordinaires, to recording on Apollo 18 and John Henry-era songs, to playing keyboards and brass as part of their 90's touring band, plus a handful of hidden projects we discover in this discussion!

We talk to Kurt about learning accordion, writing and performing in The Ordinaires, meeting TMBG and later opening for them, and then joining TMBG as a member of their first ever live band! We also go into lengthy discussions about the making of John Henry, composing the string section for S-E-X-X-Y, the infamous stage-collapse concert, and we hear many surprising tales of show business! Follow our Twitter @dontletspod for tons of links to all of Kurt's projects, and enjoy the episode, there's nothing "ordinary" about it!

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