This week’s episode starts with Ian’s birthday, a conversation about fitness age that quickly goes off the rails, and the very real realization that getting older is, honestly, kind of rude.

From there, Kat and Ian dive into something they’ve both been curious about lately: Claude.

Kat recently switched from ChatGPT and shares what’s actually been useful so far — from using Claude to organize her week and sort through newsletters to helping her think through work and spot gaps in her ideas. Along the way, they get into the bigger question underneath all of it: how do you use AI in a way that’s genuinely helpful, not just flashy? And when does knowing how to prompt well start to feel like a real skill in its own right?

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