Kat is an Oura Ring snob, and thinks Apple Watches are "trash," while Ian is #TeamAppleWatch.

We then get into voice memos and how many texts the average person we get each day (turns out Ian needs more friends)!

We wrap up talking VR goggles and glasses, and how we think it may be a bridge too far, even if the Webex roadmap has a lot of cool stuff in it like holograms!

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