This week's episode is an interview with Gareth Damian Martin, an artist, writer, and the developer of In Other Waters. It's an unusual game that offers you the chance to explore an alien ocean, experience an imaginative, detailed and plausible-seeming marine ecosystem, and to uncover a sci-fi mystery. It was an illuminating conversation that covers the game's conception, the ensuing research, writing and design, and the process of launching a game as a first-time developer. Follow Gareth on Twitter at @jumpovertheage and @InOtherWaters.

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The music on this episode is by Amos Roddy. Additional thanks to Louis from Time Played 3hr for the audio help. 

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