On this week's podcast interview Paul talks to Chris Talgo, Senior Editor at the free market Heartland Institute.  The main topic addressed is "ESG." ESG stands for "Environmental Social and Governance" which are social credit scores assigned to corporations, supposedly for their corporate behavior in relevant areas. Not surprisingly, ESG is yet another tool for opponents of traditional sources of energy and even free speech to attack their opponents. 

Talgo and Gessing go into detail about ESG and also discuss how the Biden Administration is using ESG and other tools to kill American energy.