📝 Why Most Small Churches Get Stuck (And How to Bring Them Back to Life) Boston Interviews #4

In this episode of the Rob Skinner Podcast, Rob sits down with Joel Nagel, a leader with a deep passion for helping small churches grow, thrive, and become vibrant again.

Joel shares insights from his work with the Small Church Initiative, an experimental cohort designed to strengthen churches with fewer resources and limited training opportunities.

With most churches being under 100 members, this conversation addresses a critical question:

👉 Why do so many small churches get stuck—and how can they grow again?

🔥 What You'll Learn in This Episode

• Why small churches often experience an "existential crisis" when growth stalls
• The importance of community and connection for isolated leaders
• How weekly cohorts and training are transforming struggling churches
• Why church culture ("the soil") matters more than quick results
• The difference between a church that's growing—and one that just looks active
• How to build a vibrant, alive church environment that leads to growth

💡 Key Insight

Growth doesn't start with numbers.

👉 It starts with culture.

When a church becomes spiritually alive—when people are engaged, connected, and excited—growth follows naturally.

🌱 Why This Matters

Many small churches don't fail because of a lack of faith.

They struggle because of:

• Isolation
• Lack of training
• Limited support systems

The solution?

👉 Connection, coaching, and culture.

📣 Get Involved

If you're a small church leader and want to be part of a future cohort, Joel shares how to get connected and take the next step toward building a thriving church.

🔗 Next Steps

• Subscribe for more leadership insights from around the world
• Share this episode with a church leader who needs encouragement
• Sign up for Rob's weekly newsletter at RobSkinner.com

🔁 Series Note

This episode is part of a special series of short interviews from the Boston Church Builders Conference, featuring leaders focused on growing healthy, thriving churches around the world.