On this week's conversation Paul sits down with New Mexico real estate owner Doug Peterson. Doug will be moderating a panel discussion on crime issues on Thursday, July 14.  Through his Peterson Properties company Doug owns and manages large amounts of commercial real estate in and around the Albuquerque area. He has been active in calling attention to lax crime enforcement and the serious homeless problem facing his community. Doug and Paul discuss how the problem has evolved over time, whether the data support assumptions that crime has worsened in Albuquerque, and the various politicians and their impact on the situation.