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Communicating via video link like the inhabitants of Bowie Base One, Ben and Mark discuss The Waters of Mars; a story Ben feels is one of the very best pieces of Doctor Who there is. But what is it that disappoints Mark?After that, as chosen by the listeners; The Seeds of Death, a story that in many ways predicted the current state of space travel in the 21st century. Also under discussion: The fall of Woolworths 8 years on, excellent Doctor Who directors, the benefits of a "by Russell T Davies" credit, and lots more!

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