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Mark, Ben, Richie and Dylan reach journey's end for both Star Trek and Doctor Who as they cover the JJ Abrams movies, the Paramount+ era and ponder how both franchises have weathered the storms of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, 

Also: Were Uhura and Scotty always shagging? What would Sisko be like if he was Scottish? And should Doctor Who and Star Trek ever cross over? 

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Mark, Ben, Dylan and Richie go on a pub crawl from Ten Forward to Quark's Bar and beyond as they chart the golden age of Star Trek from the franchise's 25th anniversary in 1991 to the end of Enterprise in 2004.

Was the success of TNG responsible for the return of Doctor Who in 2005? What do DS9 and Voyager have in common with the work of Bill Baggs? What happened when Jon Pertwee met William Shatner? What was Leonard Nimoy doing if he wasn't directing the Doctor Who TV Movie or Star Trek Generations? The Treklash Bridge Crew try to answer all these questions and more.

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Mark commands another voyage through the six decades of Star Trek and Doctor Who, ably assisted by his trusty bridge crew; Ben Verth, Richie Morgan and Dylan Rees.

This episode, we visit the 1980s and observe the rise of the Star Trek movie franchise, the difficult birth of the Next Generation, and the dying days of Doctor Who. 

Does The Wrath of Khan have anything in common with Earthshock? How were the early days of TNG a bit like RTD2? And which of us is the Captain Will Decker of podcasting? All this and more in Treklash 2: Gin of Evil.

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Mark Donaldson, Bones Verth, Dylanna Troi (Dylan Rees) and Richie Morgan embark on a 60 year mission to chart the differences and similarities between Star Trek and Doctor Who. 

THIS EPISODE: We're talking Patrick Troughton and The Original Series to Tom Baker and The Motion Picture. Did the space race help or hinder late 60s Doctor Who and Star Trek: TOS? How Star Trek became a big enough deal in the UK to prompt Bruce Forsyth to dress up as Captain Kirk. But which show is like being drunk with your mates?

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It's all been leading to this, sort of.

Ben and Mark bring season 1 of OTTLXRTD2 to a close with a bumper episode diving deep into the much derided series finale, Legend of Ruby Sunday/Empire of Death. Was Ncuti Gatwa tuning a telly really worthy of the big screen treatment? Why is Sutekh such a big fan of Davina McCall's Long Lost Family? 

And on the subject of abrupt companion departures, the Lash Lads pair Empire of Death with The Myth Makers, comparing and contrasting Vicki's TARDIS departure amidst a Grecian bloodbath. 

With apologies to Morrissey and Marr...

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After emerging relatively unscathed from a discussion about racism in Doctor Who, Ben and Mark tackle same sex relationships in Rogue and the representation of disability in Black Orchid. What could possibly go wrong?

Also: Ben adds Janet Fielding to his repertoire of impressions and Matthew Waterhouse eats a soggy buffet, and a bunch of listeners have never seen Bridgerton.

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Ben and Mark go On the Tightrope as they attempt to talk about the heavy themes and issues brought up by Dot and Bubble without getting cancelled or sounding like Legz Akimbo theatre company. But don't worry, there's some light relief in the form of the William Hartnell serial, The Savages, in which an underclass are brutally subjugated by their privileged masters. Ah. 

Also: What is the Citizen Kane of Doctor Who? Who's responsible for William Hartnell's Reactive Vibrator? And why shouldn't we mourn Ricky September?

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"Everyone gives Doctor Who shit for sticking some glasses on Millie Gibson but what about Amol Rajan?"

Spooky women, sexual deviants and robot dogs abound as Ben and Mark tackle Russell T Davies' A24-lite thriller 73 Yards and Terence Dudley's occult oddity, K-9 & Company.

Do either of these companion-centric Doctor Who stories actually have anything to say? Who does Susan Twist's Ncuti Gatwa impression remind us of? And while we're at it, whose house smells of ouzo and johnnies?

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Steven Moffat and Terry Nation return to Doctor Who after some time away, but are they all out of tricks? Ben and Mark find out as they discuss Boom from 2024 and Destiny of the Daleks from 1979. 

How did Boom unite a divided Doctor Who fandom? Will Ben and Mark ever actually talk about what Destiny of the Daleks is rather than what it could have been? And why did Terry Nation veto a Dalek production of Romeo & Juliet?

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"...so I can maybe understand why the Beatles look a bit chubby..."

Ben and Mark discuss two Doctor Who stories that make a virtue of the absence of The Beatles, to varying degrees of success; 2024's The Devil's Chord, and 2013's Fanfare for the Common Men.

Over the course of the discussion, the Lash Lads ponder whether the Fifth Doctor is convincing as a Beatles fan, question the inclusion of "There's Always a Twist at the End", and rifle through RTD's Desert Island Discs.

Also: The Degsestial Funmaker challenges the lads to identify two niche bits of Doctor Who related audio merch, and Mark pitches a new BBC book for babies.

You can read about the plagiarism allegations against Yesterday here.

And there's a Time magazine article about the Paul is Dead conspiracy theory here.

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