“If humanism is anything, it’s self-education. It’s progressing, becoming more educated, more enlightened.” - Dr Bill Angus

Dr Bill Angus takes us on a provocative journey through his transition from devout evangelical Christian to secular humanist in this candid, thought-provoking conversation. After 30 years of committed faith, Angus found himself re-examining the foundations of Christianity, leading to what he calls a “divorce” from Jesus. With humour and clarity, he challenges us to rethink what religion offers – and what humanism makes possible instead.

Connect with Bill & Resources:

• Divorcing Jesus: Atheism for Absolute Beginners – Bill Angus (2024) – Amazon
• Website – billangus.com
• Bluesky – @billangus.bsky.social
• Humanists New Zealand – humanist.nz

Topics we cover

 ✔︎ Why Bill felt “divorcing Jesus” was the right metaphor for leaving faith
 ✔︎ Jesus as historical figure vs. fictionalised character of modern Christianity
 ✔︎ How religion can stunt personal growth through “instant salvation”
 ✔︎ Humanism as a practice of continuous learning and self-education
 ✔︎ Rethinking forgiveness, love, and moral values outside divine command
 ✔︎ Finding authentic community beyond the church
 ✔︎ Building strength and integrity through secular humanism
 ✔︎ The wide horizons of life after religion

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