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Could AI enable a small group to gain power over a large country, and lock in their power permanently? Often, people worried about catastrophic risks from AI have been concerned with misalignment risks. In this episode, Tom Davidson talks about a risk that could be comparably important: that of AI-enabled coups.
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Transcript: https://axrp.net/episode/2025/08/07/episode-46-tom-davidson-ai-enabled-coups.html
Topics we discuss, and timestamps:
0:00:35 How to stage a coup without AI
0:16:17 Why AI might enable coups
0:33:29 How bad AI-enabled coups are
0:37:28 Executive coups with singularly loyal AIs
0:48:35 Executive coups with exclusive access to AI
0:54:41 Corporate AI-enabled coups
0:57:56 Secret loyalty and misalignment in corporate coups
1:11:39 Likelihood of different types of AI-enabled coups
1:25:52 How to prevent AI-enabled coups
1:33:43 Downsides of AIs loyal to the law
1:41:06 Cultural shifts vs individual action
1:45:53 Technical research to prevent AI-enabled coups
1:51:40 Non-technical research to prevent AI-enabled coups
1:58:17 Forethought
2:03:03 Following Tom's and Forethought's research
Links for Tom and Forethought:
Tom on X / Twitter: https://x.com/tomdavidsonx
Tom on LessWrong: https://www.lesswrong.com/users/tom-davidson-1
Forethought Substack: https://newsletter.forethought.org/
Will MacAskill on X / Twitter: https://x.com/willmacaskill
Will MacAskill on LessWrong: https://www.lesswrong.com/users/wdmacaskill
Research we discuss:
AI-Enabled Coups: How a Small Group Could Use AI to Seize Power: https://www.forethought.org/research/ai-enabled-coups-how-a-small-group-could-use-ai-to-seize-power
Seizing Power: The Strategic Logic of Military Coups, by Naunihal Singh: https://muse.jhu.edu/book/31450
Experiment using AI-generated posts on Reddit draws fire for ethics concerns: https://retractionwatch.com/2025/04/28/experiment-using-ai-generated-posts-on-reddit-draws-fire-for-ethics-concerns/
Episode art by Hamish Doodles: hamishdoodles.com
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Could AI enable a small group to gain power over a large country, and lock in their power permanently? Often, people worried about catastrophic risks from AI have been concerned with misalignment risks. In this episode, Tom Davidson talks about a risk that could be comparably important: that of AI-enabled coups.
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/axrpodcast
Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/axrpodcast
Transcript: https://axrp.net/episode/2025/08/07/episode-46-tom-davidson-ai-enabled-coups.html
Topics we discuss, and timestamps:
0:00:35 How to stage a coup without AI
0:16:17 Why AI might enable coups
0:33:29 How bad AI-enabled coups are
0:37:28 Executive coups with singularly loyal AIs
0:48:35 Executive coups with exclusive access to AI
0:54:41 Corporate AI-enabled coups
0:57:56 Secret loyalty and misalignment in corporate coups
1:11:39 Likelihood of different types of AI-enabled coups
1:25:52 How to prevent AI-enabled coups
1:33:43 Downsides of AIs loyal to the law
1:41:06 Cultural shifts vs individual action
1:45:53 Technical research to prevent AI-enabled coups
1:51:40 Non-technical research to prevent AI-enabled coups
1:58:17 Forethought
2:03:03 Following Tom's and Forethought's research
Links for Tom and Forethought:
Tom on X / Twitter: https://x.com/tomdavidsonx
Tom on LessWrong: https://www.lesswrong.com/users/tom-davidson-1
Forethought Substack: https://newsletter.forethought.org/
Will MacAskill on X / Twitter: https://x.com/willmacaskill
Will MacAskill on LessWrong: https://www.lesswrong.com/users/wdmacaskill
Research we discuss:
AI-Enabled Coups: How a Small Group Could Use AI to Seize Power: https://www.forethought.org/research/ai-enabled-coups-how-a-small-group-could-use-ai-to-seize-power
Seizing Power: The Strategic Logic of Military Coups, by Naunihal Singh: https://muse.jhu.edu/book/31450
Experiment using AI-generated posts on Reddit draws fire for ethics concerns: https://retractionwatch.com/2025/04/28/experiment-using-ai-generated-posts-on-reddit-draws-fire-for-ethics-concerns/
Episode art by Hamish Doodles: hamishdoodles.com
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