On this week's conversation Paul talks to Mackenzie Bishop, the co-founder and co-owner of Abrazo Homes a home builder based in the Albuquerque area. 

In this wide-ranging conversation Paul and Mackenzie discuss the myriad forces acting on the housing market from the Federal Reserve to supply chain issues and local crime and permitting issues. With "rent control" and other policies being considered in the upcoming legislative session this is an especially timely conversation.