In this episode of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen, Matt Payne interviews David Shaw, a Colorado-based photographer with a background in wildlife biology. They explore how David Shaw’s scientific training shapes his photographic approach, emphasizing the importance of understanding one’s subject and using photography as a way to have more meaningful experiences outdoors. David Shaw shares insights from his career transition, his philosophy on balancing artistic creativity with commercial viability, and his experiences guiding wilderness and photo tours. The conversation highlights the value of pursuing personal projects, staying open to experimentation, and finding joy in the process—not just the end product. The episode wraps with a discussion about the challenges of making photography a business and recommendations for future podcast guests.

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