Time to plan an upgrade as Joël and Aji talk about the hurdles involved with various change management in their projects.

The pair lay out some different approaches to protecting your data when planning a migration, the risks of code and data changes, the elements that will and won’t be affect in the process, and Joël gives his experience on a tough migration project and what he learnt from it.

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