Go Blue! As some may say. Jason is not so sure. Joining the show to talk about the University of Michigan Wolverines' big win in the 2024 College Football Championship is current cop and former Wolverine offensive lineman and Sheriff's Deputy Thomas "Train" Guynes! They talk the overcoming adversity, how being a football offensive lineman prepped him for manhood and being a police officer, and how our culture is banishing classic standards of manhood-- including football ever more.

Even if college football is not your thing, you will enjoy this deep conversation.

Jon appears as well.

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