Jim Rutledge is joined by voice of Badgers Volleyball, Jon Arias, who fills in to co-host while Matt and Molly are both away. They discuss the red-hot Brewers STAYING red hot with their 70th win of the season last night. Does Jon believe this year is different for the Brewers, and will he consider it a success if they don't at least win a playoff series? They ask today's Siding Unlimited poll question (inspired by @JoeMama): Would you give up 5 years of the Packers making the playoffs for the Brewers to win a World Series? Jon also shares his opinion on Jim's viral take from last week that Matt LaFleur and the Packers have "leveled down" since moving on from Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love. Evan Cohen of Unsportsmanlike joins the show to address the timeline of Jim's "level down" take and how it was picked up across ESPN Radio this week, including what it was like for Jim getting a rise out of the nicest guy in radio, Freddie Coleman! They further discuss whether the Packers have truly stepped down since Rodgers and the challenge of evaluating Love as Green Bay's QB in a vacuum. Plus, they get into the idea of sacrificing 5 years of the Packers making the playoffs to get one Brewers World Series, and was Jim's proudest callout actually when Barry Alvarez called him "preposterous"?